jacoleko - 2010-01-30, 22:47 Temat postu: Tali Umieszczam tutaj stan posiadanych kart, którymi zamierzam gra?. Mam nadziej?, ?e dzi?ki temu te? pomo?ecie mi z?o?y? tali? do gry i ewentualnie, co nieco mi obja?ni?. Talia Zielona (Drzewko) Forest - Basic Land - 122 - C Rootbound Crag - Land - 1 - R Turntimber Grove - Land - 1 - C Vivid Grove - Land - 4 - C Slippery Karst - Land - 2 - C Treetop Village - Land - 1 - U Naturalize - Instant - 2 - C Harrow - Instant - 1 - C Thrill of the Hunt - Instant - 1 - C Strength in Numbers - Instant - 1 - C Molder - Instant - 1 - C Gather Courage - Instant - 3 - C Dryad's Caress - Instant - 1 - C Scatter the Seeds - Instant - 2 - C Windstorm - Instant - 2 - U Tanglesap - Instant - 2 - C Might of Oaks - Instant - 1 - R Giant Growth - Instant - 4 - C Relic Crush - Instant - 2 - C Might of Alara - Instant - 1 - C Spring Cleaning - Instant - 1 - C Sylvan Bounty - Instant - 2 - C Beast Attack - Instant - 1 - U Invigorate - Instant - 1 - C Regenerate - Instant - 1 - C Fog - Instant - 1 - C Viridescent Wisps - Instant - 1 - C Luminescent Rain - Instant - 1 - C Heal of Scars - Instant - 1 - C Fistful of Force - Instant - 1 - C Baloth Cage Trap - Instant/Trap - 2 - U Cobra Trap - Instant/Trap - 2 - U Reach of Branches - Tribal Instant/Treefolk - 1 - R Quest for the Gemblades - Enchantment - 1 - U Wild Pair - Enchantment - 1 - R Beastmaster Ascension - Enchantment - 1 - R Sylvan Echoes - Enchantment - 1 - U Oakenform - Enchantment/Aura - 3 - C Savage Silhouette - Enchantment/Aura - 1 - C Fists of Ironwood - Enchantment/Aura - 4 - C Blanchwood Armor - Enchantment/Aura - 3 - U Web - Enchantment/Aura - 1 - U Regeneration - Enchantment/Aura - 1 - U Treetop Bracers - Enchantment/Aura - 2 - C Overgrowth - Enchantment/Aura - 2 - C Elehant Guide - Enchantment/Aura - 1 - U Rancor - Enchantment/Aura - 2 - C Genju of the Cedars - Enchantment/Aura - 1 - U Entangling Vines - Enchantment/Aura - 1 - C Lignify - Tribal Enchantment/Treefolk Aura - 4 - C Nature's Spiral - Sorcery - 1 - U Bountiful Harvest - Sorcery - 3 - C Overrun - Sorcery - 2 - U Overwhelm - Sorcery - 1 - U Rampant Growth - Sorcery - 3 - C Spore Burst - Sorcery - 2 - U Shard Convergence - Sorcery - 1 - U Hurricane - Sorcery - 1 - R Rude Awakening - Sorcery - 1 - R Harmonize - Sorcery - 2 - U Nature's Lore - Sorcery - 2 - C Howl of the Night Pack - Sorcery - 1 - U Feral Contest - Sorcery - 1 - C Incremental Growth - Sorcery - 1 - U Monstrify - Sorcery - 1 - C Recross the Paths - Sorcery - 4 - U Joraga Bard - Creature/Elf Rogue Ally - 1 - C Elvish Visionary - Creature/Elf Shaman - 1 - C Nullmage Shepherd - Creature/Elf Shaman - 2 - U Nurturer Initiate - Creature/Elf Shaman - 2 - C Gilt-Leaf Seer - Creature/Elf Shaman - 2 - C Wolf-Skull Shaman - Creature/Elf Shaman - 1 - U Elvish Archdruid - Creature/Elf Druid - 1 - R Llanowar Elves - Creature/Elf Druid - 6 - C Norwood Ranger - Creature/Elf Scout - 2 - C Elvish Warrior - Creature/Elf Warrior - 4 - C Elvish Skysweeper - Creature/Elf Warrior - 2 - C Winnower Patrol - Creature/Elf Warrior - 2 - C Bramblewood Paragon - Creature/Elf Warrior - 2 - U Nettle Sentinel - Creature/Elf Warrior - 2 - C Sacellum Archers - Creature/Elf Archer - 1 - U Wirewood Savage - Creature/Elf - 2 - C Arbor Elf - Creature/Elf Druid - 1 - C Awakener Drui - Creature/Human Druid - 1 - U Yavimaya Enchantress - Creature/Human Druid - 1 - U Verduran Enchantress - Creature/Human Druid - 1 - R Master of the Wild Hunt - Creature/Human Shaman - 1 - R Borderland Ranger - Creature/Human Scout - 4 - C Matca Rioters - Creature/Human Warrior - 2 - C Prized Unicorn - Creature/Unicorn - 1 - U Scythe Tiger - Creature/Cat - 1 - C Giant Spider - Creature/Spider - 5 - C Ember Weaver - Creature/Spider - 2 - C Stampeding Rhino - Creature/Rhino - 2 - C Turntimber Basilisk - Creature/Basilisk - 1 - U Grazing Gladehart - Creature/Antelope - 1 - C Emerald Oryx - Creature/Antelope - 1 - C Stampeding Wildebeests - Creature/Antelope Beast - 1 - U Krosan Tusker - Creature/Boar Beast - 1 - C Runeclaw Bear - Creature/Bear - 2 - C Ashcoat Bear - Creature/Bear - 1 - C Zendikar Farguide - Creature/Elemental - 1 - C Bramble Creeper - Creature/Elemental - 1 - C Root-Kin Ally - Creature/Elemental - 2 - U Woodland Changeling - Creature/Shapeshifter - 2 - C Savage Thallid - Creature/Fungus - 1 - C Thallid Germinator - Creature/Fungus - 1 - C Mold Shambler - Creature/Fungus Beast - 1 - C Mold Adder - Creature/Fungus Snake - 1 - U Snapping creeper - Creature/Plant - 1 - C Terra Stomper - Creature/Beast - 1 - R Kalonian Behemoth - Creature/Beast - 2 - R Enormous Baloth - Creature/Beast - 3 - U Timbermaw Larva - Creature/Beast - 2 - C Beacon Behemoth - Creature/Beast - 2 - C Paleoloth - Creature/Beast - 1 - R Hunted Wumpus - Creature/Beast - 1 - U Blastoderm - Creature/Beast - 2 - C Indrik Stomphowler - Creature/Beast - 2 - U Ravenous Baloth - Creature/Beast - 1 - R Plated Slagwurm - Creature/Wurm - 1 - R Craw Wurm - Creature/Wurm - 2 - C Siege Wurm - Creature/Wurm - 3 - C Basking Rootwalla - Creature/Lizard - 2 - C Trained Armodon - Creature/Elephant - 2 - C Kavu Climber - Creature/Kavu - 1 - C Emperor Crocodile - Creature/Crocodile - 1 - R Nantuko Shaman - Creature/Insect Shaman - 1 - C Pincher Beetles - Creature/Insect - 1 - C Scion of the Wild - Creature/Avatar - 1 - R Albino Troll - Creature/Troll - 2 - U Cudgel Troll - Creature/Troll - 1 - U Wild Mongrel - Creature/Hound - 2 - C Vine Trellis - Creature/Plant Wall - 2 - C Wickerbough Elder - Creature/Treefolk Shaman - 3 - C Bosk Banneret - Creature/Treefolk Shaman - 3 - C Bog-Strider Ash - Creature/Treefolk Shaman - 3 - C Dowsing Shaman - Creature/Centaur Shaman - 1 - U Leaf-Crowned Elder - Creature/Treefolk Shaman - 1 - R Everbark Shaman - Creature/Treefolk Shaman - 1 - C Guardian of Cloverdell - Creature/Treefolk Shaman - 1 - U Orchard Warden - Creature/Treefolk Shaman - 2 - U Battlewand Oak - Creature/Treefolk Warrior - 1 - C Ambassador Oak - Creature/Treefolk Warrior - 2 - C Cloudcrown Oak - Creature/Treefolk Warrior - 2 - C Unstoppable Ash - Creature/Treefolk Warrior - 1 - R Fungus Sliver - Creature/Fungus Sliver - 1 - R Gemhide Sliver - Creature/Sliver - 2 - C Quick Sliver - Creature/Sliver - 1 - C Might Sliver - Creature/Sliver - 1 - C Virulent Sliver - Creature/Sliver - 2 - C Muscle Sliver - Creature/Sliver - 2 - C Brood Sliver - Creature/Sliver - 1 - R Spinneret Sliver - Creature/Sliver - 1 - C Garruk Wildspeaker - Planeswalker/Garruk - 2 - MR Drain the Well - Sorcery - 1 - C Exploding Borders - Sorcery - 1 - C Gift of the Deity - Enchantment/Aura - 1 - C Beast - Creature/Beast - 4 - C Snake - Creature/Snake - 1 - C Elephant - Creature/Elephant - 1 - C Wolf - Creature/Wolf - 1 - C Graypelt Refuge - Land - 1 - U Verdant Catacombs - Land - 1 - R Ancient Ziggurat - Land - 2 - C Rupture Spire - Land - 2 - C Selesnya Sanctuary - Land - 2 - C Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree - Land - 1 - U Explorer's Scape - Artifact/Equpment - 2 - C Manaforce Mace - Artifact/Equpment - 1 - U Kitesail - Artifact/Equipment - 1 - C Gorgon Flail - Artifact/Equipment - 1 - U Wurm's Tooth - Artifact - 1 - U Dragon's Claw - Artifact - 2 - U Heartstone - Artifact - 1 - C Coat of Arms - Artifact - 1 - R Kaleidostone - Artifact - 1 - C Serrated Arrows - Artifact - 2 - C Kraken's Eye - Artifact - 1 - U Rod of Ruin - Artifact - 1 - U Angel's Feather - Artifact - 1 - U Wanderer's Twig - Artifact - 2 - C Trip Noose - Artifact - 1 - U Obsidian Battle-Axe - Tribal Artifact/Warrior Equipment - 3 - U Thornbite Staff - Tribal Artifact/Shaman Equipment - 1 - U Bottle Gnomes - Artifact Creature/Gnome - 1 - U Metallic Sliver - Artifact Creature/Sliver - 2 - C Antler Skulkin - Artifact Creature/Scarecrow - 1 - C Hedron Rover - Artifact Creature/Construct - 1 - C Terramorphic Expanse - Land - 4 Miksy Victual Sliver - Creature/Sliver - 1 - C Spined Sliver - Creature/Sliver - 1 - C Sliver Overlord - Legendary Creature/Sliver Mutant - 1 - M Sturdy Hatchling - Creature/Elemental - 2 - U Shorecrasher Mimic - Creature/Shapeshifter - 3 - C Watchwolf - Creature/Wolf - 1 - U Gilder Bairn - Creature/Ouphe - 1 - U Doomgape - Creature/Elemental - 1 - R Centaur Safeguard - Creature/Centaur Warrior - 2 - C Selesnya Evangel - Creature/Elf Shaman - 2 - C Selesnya Guildmage - Creature/Elf Wizard - 1 - U Tolsimir Wolfblood - Legendary Creature/Elf Warrior - 1 - R Vagrant Plowbeasts - Creature/Beast - 2 - U Woolly Thoctar - Creature/Beast - U Trapjaw Kelpie - Creature/Best - 1 - C Meglonoth - Creature/Beast - 1 - R Grazing Kelpie - Creature/Beast - 1 - C Slippery Bogle - Creature/Beast - 1 - C Wistful Selkie - Creature/Merfolk Wizard - 3 - U selkie Hedge-Mage - Creature/Merfolk Wizard - 3 - U Groudling Pouncer - creature/Faerie - 2 - U Favor of the Overbeing - Enchantment/Aura - 2 - C Fable of Wolf and Owl - Enchantment - 1 - R Spitting Image - Sorcery - 1 - R Snakeform - Instant - 3 - C Invert yhe Skies - Instant - 1 - U jacoleko - 2010-02-06, 14:42 Macie jakie? sugestie, co do z?o?enia talii. W sumie nawet nie wiem z ilu kart ma si? ona sk?ada? 40 czy 60 kart a mo?e wi?cej. Mam te? pytanie, co do kart, na których widnieje na przyk?ad drzewko i ognista spiralka. Czy do wystawienia takiej karty potrzebne jest L?d z zielonej talii i Mountain z czerwonej? Podobne pytanie mam te? do takich kart, na których w jednym kó?eczku powiedzmy jest l?d i kropelka. Przyk?ad: http://gatherer.wizards.c...tiverseid=87959 Watcher - 2010-02-06, 22:47 Ten centaur po prostu mo?e by? wystawiony albo za zielon?, albo za bia?? man?. Nie za obie. Plus dwie "szare" many, czyli po prostu dwa punkty many z dowolnego koloru. Przyj??o si?, ?e talia liczy co najmniej 60 kart (w tym ok. 30% l?dów). W praktyce najlepsze z?o?enia to 60-70 kart, aczkolwiek w niektórych uk?adach sprawdzaj? si? te? talie wi?ksze (je?li na przyk?ad masz du?o mocy "dobieraj?cych karty" z talii, na przyk?ad "Howling Mine"). jacoleko - 2010-02-07, 00:12 A wracaj?c do pytania gdzie pyta?em o kart?, na której widnieje kilka ró?nych mon, (ale wysz?o). Mam wiec rozumie?, ?e aby wystawi? ta kart? musz? posiada? ka?d? z widniej?cych na karcie. Przyk?ad: http://gatherer.wizards.c...tiverseid=45166 Watcher - 2010-02-07, 00:25 Tak, musisz mie? man? z pi?ciu ró?nych kolorowych ?róde?. Sam mam trójkolorow? tali?, obecnie chyba moja najsilniejsza  Ale granie pi?ciokolorow? to jaka? masakra
jacoleko - 2010-02-07, 00:36 Ja na razie chc? si? skoncentrowa? na jedno kolorowej, czyli zielonej i przewodni motyw w niej maja grac elfy. W sumie i tak musz? si? nauczy? gry, bo generalnie po tych 4 latach gdzie wtedy rozegra?em chyba 5 – 6 gier nic nie pami?tam, cho? zasady nie s? jakie? tam skomplikowane. Z tamtych czasów pami?tam, ?e Bono gra? na goblinach
Zaran i Simon juz nie pami?tam. 
Czosnek - 2010-02-07, 11:31 Jack ja w swoich deckach 60 kartowych mam ok 20-22 landow 25 creatur i reszta to czary ( instanty, ench itd. ) |
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